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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Can any of you guys help me with the biblical
reasoning of the teaching that Jesus' human nature was not the fallen nature of
current mankind?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>For what the law could not do, in that it was weak
through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and
for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: <BR>(Romans 8:3 KJV)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,
(and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full
of grace and truth. <BR>(John 1:14 KJV)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>For we have not an high priest which cannot be
touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like
as we are, yet without sin. <BR>(Hebrews 4:15 KJV)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>How would one provide a good argument that the
flesh was real, but the sinful human nature wasn't there, that the human nature
was sinless, only the "likeness of sinful flesh" not actual "sinful flesh"
? (I quote Heb 4:15 to get it out of the way - the counter argument is
that he was without sin, not without a sinful nature."</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The arguments come from Adventism, which is
confused on this issue, with different groups taking different positions, based
on differing/contradicting quotes from their prophetess Ellen
White:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><EM>It was in the order of God that Christ should
take upon Himself the form and nature of fallen man.</EM> (Spiritual
Gifts, vol. 4a, p. 115)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><EM>We should have no misgivings in regard to the
perfect sinlessness of the human nature of Christ.</EM> (Selected Messages, Vol.
1, p. 256)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><EM>Not possessing the passions of our human,
fallen nature, but compassed with like infirmities, tempted in all points even
as we are.</EM> (Testimonies, vol. 2, p. 509)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Stephen</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>--<BR>Stephen Korsman<BR><A
href="mailto:skorsman@theotokos.co.za">skorsman@theotokos.co.za</A><BR><A
href="http://www.theotokos.co.za">www.theotokos.co.za</A></FONT></DIV>
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