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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You're right ... I don't understand the term, but I
can guess :-)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I wish I had the time to do it immediately.
It's 1 am, and I am off to bed ... likely the same for the rest of the
week. Over the weekend I'll try to put something together, but I have a
prior commitment that I don't want to now give second place.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>God bless,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Stephen</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=arthurkelly@yahoo.com href="mailto:arthurkelly@yahoo.com">Art
Kelly</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=apologetics@gathman.org
href="mailto:apologetics@gathman.org">Apologetics Group</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 27, 2007 12:16
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Apologetics] My "fan"
club</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Stephen,<BR><BR>I recommend you jump on his highly
erroneous<BR>statements immediately.<BR><BR>Don't let him swift boat you.
(It's an American<BR>expression. You wouldn't understand.)<BR><BR>And make it
very clear that this guy is being highly<BR>deceptive.<BR><BR>Art<BR><BR>---
Stephen Korsman <<A
href="mailto:skorsman@theotokos.co.za">skorsman@theotokos.co.za</A>>
wrote:<BR><BR>> Hi<BR>> ----- Original Message -----
<BR>> From: Art Kelly <BR>> <BR>> Since he is
unwilling to provide reciprocal<BR>> courtesies<BR>> to you,
then you should provide all of the facts<BR>> about<BR>> his
distortions and deceit on YOUR website.<BR>> <BR>> In fact,
he has done you a favor. <BR>> <BR>> By trying to play with
a stacked deck, he has<BR>> exposed<BR>> the fallacious
nature of his modus operadi and<BR>> cast<BR>> great
disrepute on the nature of all of his<BR>> comments.<BR>>
<BR>> Keep on eye on his website and then report on
YOUR<BR>> website what he is doing that is factually
and<BR>> intellectually in error.<BR>> At the moment I save
the website as PDF each time I<BR>> see a new comment. I hope to put
it all together<BR>> next week.<BR>> <BR>> Now he's stated more
explicitly:<BR>> <BR>> "Well, Stephen has emailed me saying he is not
able<BR>> to provide clear unequivocal Biblical evidence for<BR>> the
questions I asked him on this blog."<BR>> <BR>> I never said that.
I don't know how such a<BR>> statement could be sincere.<BR>> <BR>>
I'll have each and every e-mail to and from him<BR>> saved as PDFs as well,
with text files for the<BR>> headers, and have them available with my
blog<BR>> defence.<BR>> ----- Original Message -----
<BR>> From: Stuart D. Gathman <BR>> <BR>> On
Tue, 26 Jun 2007, Stephen Korsman wrote:<BR>> <BR>> > And
he's said that I don't allow comments on my<BR>> blog, and also that
I<BR>> > said that I am unable to answer his
questions.<BR>> <BR>> ><BR>><BR><A
href="http://reinventingsdawheel.blogspot.com/2007/01/sabbath-musings-pt1.html">http://reinventingsdawheel.blogspot.com/2007/01/sabbath-musings-pt1.html</A><BR>>
<BR>> He might have had technical difficulties on your<BR>>
blog and jumped to <BR>> conclusions. (Wrong - but easy
to do. Don't jump<BR>> to conclusions yourself.)<BR>> Please point
out if you see me jumping to<BR>> conclusions!!<BR>> <BR>> His
comment at the last link above says:<BR>> <BR>> "It's interesting to
note that Stephen Korsman blog<BR>> does not allow people to respond. He
has banned<BR>> comments or participation."<BR>> <BR>> That doesn't
sound like technical difficulties. <BR>> It's a broad statement.
Which I did misinterpret,<BR>> but I don't think it's the same as
below:<BR>> <BR>> On my blog it becomes:<BR>> <BR>> "As far
comments being blocked, there are some posts<BR>> that you are not allowing
comments, I didn't say you<BR>> blocked me personally."<BR>> <BR>>
Since I worked out how to activate comments, there<BR>> are very few where
comments are closed; most are<BR>> because I didn't actively set the
comments on<BR>> because I didn't think it was important enough to<BR>>
comment - I have few commentators; the rest I either<BR>> forgot to set the
comments on, or was having trouble<BR>> with comments. He may be
jumping to conclusions,<BR>> but I think it's clear enough that he's not
willing<BR>> to give me the benefit of the doubt on much.<BR>> <BR>>
Quite frankly, I don't want his sort of<BR>> contribution. Maybe that
sounds unfair, but I must<BR>> draw the line somewhere. Civilised
dialogue is<BR>> fine, pontificating with no intent to give the
other<BR>> person a chance is not that.<BR>> <BR>> This is starting
to leave me feeling a bit sick. It<BR>> can only do me good - extra
publicity, and a solid<BR>> explanation with good evidence of his ...
mischief?<BR>> <BR>> It's just hard to imagine what goes on inside
the<BR>> mind of someone like that. Is he the type that puts<BR>>
up billboards saying the Pope is the antichrist? <BR>> Why is he so extreme
without any apparent interest<BR>> in actually discussing issues? Why
the questions<BR>> designed to be unanswerable?<BR>> <BR>> God
bless,<BR>> Stephen<BR>> --- Stephen Korsman <<A
href="mailto:skorsman@theotokos.co.za">skorsman@theotokos.co.za</A>><BR>>
wrote:<BR>> <BR>> > Hi<BR>> >
<BR>> ><BR>> <BR>><BR><A
href="http://www.theotokos.co.za/blog/post/index/387/Dr-Francis-Beckwith-comes-home">http://www.theotokos.co.za/blog/post/index/387/Dr-Francis-Beckwith-comes-home</A><BR>>
> <BR>> > Could you look at the comments section, and
say<BR>> if<BR>> > you think I've done the wrong
thing?<BR>> > <BR>> > Thanks for the moral
support over at his blog<BR>> ... <BR>> >
<BR>> > It's not often someone sets up a blog like
this.<BR>> <BR>> > It's a bit more than I was prepared
for.<BR>> > <BR>> > He has deleted my
comment on his blog commenting<BR>> on<BR>> > his change,
where I quoted the original<BR>> statement<BR>> >
mentioning me, and the revised version, so that<BR>>
the<BR>> > original statement isn't visible, and
inserted<BR>> the<BR>> > remainder of my comment later
on. <BR>> ><BR>> <BR>><BR><A
href="http://stephenkorsmanreviewed.blogspot.com/2007/06/deliver-us-from-evil.html">http://stephenkorsmanreviewed.blogspot.com/2007/06/deliver-us-from-evil.html</A><BR>>
> <BR>> > I have a screen capture and a saved version
of<BR>> the<BR>> > original blog
post.<BR>> > <BR>> > And he's said that I
don't allow comments on my<BR>> > blog, and also that I said
that I am unable to<BR>> > answer his questions. Both
untrue. <BR>> ><BR>> <BR>><BR><A
href="http://reinventingsdawheel.blogspot.com/2007/01/sabbath-musings-pt1.html">http://reinventingsdawheel.blogspot.com/2007/01/sabbath-musings-pt1.html</A><BR>>
> <BR>> > So far he's refused to link to my blog from
his<BR>> > blog, which is about me and my
blog.<BR>> > <BR>> > Do I answer according
to his rules, or just<BR>> provide<BR>> > an
answer? If I provide an answer, it'll help<BR>>
other<BR>> > readers, but he'll have a field day. I
can<BR>> always<BR>> > add a bit about how his questions
are loaded and<BR>> > unfair, etc. I think that's the
way I'll go. <BR>> It<BR>> > looks like he'll be after me
for some time, so I<BR>> > want to make my first attempt as
strong as<BR>> possible,<BR>> > because I don't have the
time to chase him<BR>> around<BR>> > the internet
explaining myself each time he<BR>> proposes<BR>> > a new
challenge. I want my first one to be<BR>>
lasting.<BR>> > <BR>> >
Thanks,<BR>> > Stephen<BR>> >
--<BR>> > Stephen Korsman<BR>> > <A
href="mailto:skorsman@theotokos.co.za">skorsman@theotokos.co.za</A><BR>>
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Original Message ----- <BR>> > From: Stuart D.
Gathman <BR>> > To: Stephen Korsman
<BR>> > Cc: Apologetics Group
<BR>> > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 11:49
PM<BR>> > Subject: Re: [Apologetics] My "fan"
club<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>>
> On Mon, 25 Jun 2007, Stephen Korsman
wrote:<BR>> > <BR>> > > I
suspect that they do allow historical<BR>> > evidence, but
only that that serves<BR>> > > their belief
system. Anything else, as you<BR>> say,<BR>> > is
tainted by the evil<BR>> > <BR>>
> Working out their belief system:<BR>> >
<BR>> > In their view, apparently all (or almost
all)<BR>> of<BR>> > Christianity went "off
the<BR>> > rails" shortly after the new
testament<BR>> documents -<BR>> > on or before the
<BR>> > destruction of Jerusalem. Do they
believe<BR>> that a<BR>> > "remnant"
remained<BR>> > faithful those thousands of
years? Or is it<BR>> like<BR>> > Mormanism where
God sent<BR>> > their prophet to restore true
faith to the<BR>> earth<BR>> > after it had
disappeared?<BR>> > <BR>> > --
<BR>> >
Stuart D. Gathman <<A
href="mailto:stuart@bmsi.com">stuart@bmsi.com</A>><BR>>
> Business Management Systems
Inc. Phone:<BR>> 703<BR>> > 591-0911 Fax: 703
591-6154<BR>> > "Confutatis maledictis, flammis
acribus<BR>> addictis"<BR>> > - background song
for<BR>> > a Microsoft sponsored "Where do you
want to go<BR>> > from here?"
commercial.<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>>
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