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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Apparently Avery Cardinal Dulles is not a
bishop. When a non-bishop becomes a cardinal, he is now normally
consecrated as a bishop first, but Pope John Paul II agreed to a
dispensation.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avery_Dulles">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avery_Dulles</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>On the Catholic Heirarchy website he is not listed
as being a bishop - <A
href="http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/bishop/bdulles.html">http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/bishop/bdulles.html</A> -
unlike Cardinal Arinze at <A
href="http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/bishop/barinze.html">http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/bishop/barinze.html</A>.
He is listed on the page with living bishops, but possibly only because he's a
cardinal?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Henri Cardinal de Lubac is another - <A
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_de_Lubac">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_de_Lubac</A>.
On the page of deceased bishops, he's listed as a priest of the Society of
Jesus, not a bishop of anywhere.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Can anyone confirm that Cardinal Dulles is not a
bishop? I've found numerous articles saying that he is not (e.g. <A
href="http://www.crisismagazine.com/julaug2001/feature1.htm">http://www.crisismagazine.com/julaug2001/feature1.htm</A>.)
<A
href="http://www.fordham.edu/dulles/bio.shtml">http://www.fordham.edu/dulles/bio.shtml</A>,
his own university, doesn't explicitly state that he never became one, but only
that he was created cardinal by "Pope John Paul II, the first American-born
theologian who is not a bishop to receive this honor" ... and I take that to be
sloppy punctuation and that Dulles was the American-born
theologian.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>God bless,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Stephen</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=skorsman@theotokos.co.za
href="mailto:skorsman@theotokos.co.za">Stephen Korsman</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=apologetics@gathman.org
href="mailto:apologetics@gathman.org">Apologetics Group</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 19, 2007 8:49
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Non-bishop cardinals</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>How many of the current cardinals are not bishops
of some sort or other? (Bishop, archibishop, patriarch,
etc.)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A
href="http://ncrcafe.org/node/1378">http://ncrcafe.org/node/1378</A> has
a list of the new cardinals - two are priests, the rest are bishops, including
one patriarch..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The last lay cardinals were at the time of Pope
Pius IX.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>God bless,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Stephen</FONT></DIV>
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