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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>While not all literature put out by Adventists is
approved by Adventism officially, most of the unapproved stuff is not coming
from their equivalent of our SSPX or sede-vacantists; it's still from the
mainstream part of the denomination. Adventism doesn't officially teach
that Catholics worship Mary, or dropped one of the 10 Commandments, etc, but
that is the way the majority of Adventist clergy will explain it from their
pulpits.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>When one directs an attack against another
denomination, it's essential to address what the denomination actually teaches;
from our perspective anyway - straw men are perfect tools for
anti-Catholics. But when defending one's faith, knowing whether the tract
or claim made has been approved by the Adventist magisterium or not is
irrelevant - it needs a defence. The common Adventist (magisterially
approved or otherwise) arguments will be out in full force.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I took this blog post as a) a warning that there
would be an increase, b) the type of things to expect [possibly camoflagued as
something "Catholic"], and c) chiding of Adventists guilty of this to encourage
them to do things honestly.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>God bless,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Stephen</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=arthurkelly@yahoo.com href="mailto:arthurkelly@yahoo.com">Art
Kelly</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=apologetics@gathman.org
href="mailto:apologetics@gathman.org">Apologetics Group</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 29, 2008 8:55
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Apologetics] Adventists
Visit the Pope. . . for Other Reasons</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Stephen,<BR><BR>Thanks for sending this.<BR><BR>Just as the
Catholic Church has ultra-traditionalists,<BR>some of whom are schismatic, I
see that other<BR>religions have their fringe groups too.<BR><BR>I'll be
careful not to conclude that anti-Catholic<BR>literature from non-Catholic
orgnizations is approved<BR>by the group in purports to
represnt.<BR><BR>Art<BR><BR>--- Stephen Korsman <<A
href="mailto:skorsman@theotokos.co.za">skorsman@theotokos.co.za</A>>
wrote:<BR><BR>> Adventists Visit the Pope. . . for Other Reasons<BR>>
via Seventh-day Adventist to Roman Catholic by Hugo<BR>> on 3/28/08<BR>>
<BR>> With mere weeks left until Pope Benedict XVI steps<BR>> foot on
American soil, I expect a few zealous<BR>> Adventists will join the crowds
to pass out<BR>> polemical literature. Typically, independent<BR>>
Adventist ministries (not all of positive repute<BR>> within the mainstream
church) lead the charge. <BR>> <BR>> Adventist Today catalogued the
activities of many<BR>> Adventists in preparation for the 1993 Denver
World<BR>> Youth Day.<BR>> <BR>> During John Paul II's 1999 visit to
St. Louis, 40<BR>> volunteers for Danny Vierra's Modern Manna<BR>>
Ministries passed out 75,000 copies of what they<BR>> publicly and
deceptively advertised as a "kosher<BR>> Mary book" with an inviting cover
of a young girl<BR>> kissing a statue of the Virgin Mary (an
hour-long<BR>> "testimony"is available here). The Catholic League<BR>>
described the book in a 1998 report.<BR>> <BR>> In July 2002, several
Adventist ministries<BR>> (Hartland, Hope International, etc.) converged
on<BR>> Toronto to distribute another booklet entitled,<BR>> "Beware of
Protestant Teachings." Despite a title<BR>> reminiscent of Catholic
apologist tracts, it<BR>> actually attacked doctrines shared by Catholics.
I<BR>> remember seeing an advance copy of the booklet, and<BR>> being
deeply disturbed by it. Its deceptive<BR>> packaging seemed to contradict
the standards exalted<BR>> in the writings of Ellen White:<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> False speaking in any matter, every attempt or<BR>>
purpose to deceive our neighbor, is [condemned in<BR>> the ten
commandments]. An intention to deceive is<BR>> what constitutes falsehood.
By a glance of the eye,<BR>> a motion of the hand, an expression of
the<BR>> countenance, a falsehood may be told as effectually<BR>> as by
words. All intentional overstatement, every<BR>> hint or insinuation
calculated to convey an<BR>> erroneous or exaggerated impression, even
the<BR>> statement of facts in such a manner as to mislead,<BR>> is
falsehood. (PP 309)<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> This statement is a terrible
indictment of the<BR>> tracts passed out by Adventists in 1999 and
2002.<BR>> Still, in spite of my reservations, I almost<BR>>
participated in this mission as a young, faithful<BR>> Adventist. At the
time, I was assisting an<BR>> evangelistic seminar in New York City. I
yearned to<BR>> go to Canada with many friends of mine, but<BR>>
ultimately found the trip logistically unfeasible. I<BR>> was disappointed,
recognizing what a great<BR>> opportunity World Youth Day presented to
share "the<BR>> three angels' messages."<BR>> <BR>> Catholics should
be ready for these Adventist<BR>> initiatives where and when they will
arise. I was<BR>> heartened to see Catholic Answers preparing for
such<BR>> attacks; hopefully, the Catholic readers on this<BR>> blog
will do their part as well to defend the<BR>> Catholic Church.<BR>>
<BR><BR><BR>ART KELLY, ATM-S<BR>13524 Brightfield Lane<BR>Herndon, Virginia
20171-3360<BR>(703) 904-3763 home<BR>(703) 396-6956 work<BR><A
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