<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:tahoma, new york, times, serif;font-size:14pt"><div><span>It's also a perversion of God's word and we know that HE ALWAYS has the LAST word. (pun intended)</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>I do not believe it's a coincidence that the first reading on Sunday ended with: </span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>"But if a prophet presumes to speak in my name<br>an oracle that I have not commanded him to speak,<br>or speaks in the name of other gods, he shall die." <font size="2">(Dt 18:20)</font></span></div><div></div><div> </div><div><div><div><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="tahoma, 'new york', times, serif"><span style="line-height: 24px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="Apple-style-span"><i>The smallest drop of the Most Precious Blood of our Saviour and God, Our Lord Christ Jesus, is greater in dignity than the cosmos and
every human and angelic soul ever created by Him. (Fr. Z)</i></span></font></div><div><i><font color="#0000bf" size="1" face="Comic Sans MS"></font></i> </div><div><i><font color="#0000bf" size="1" face="Comic Sans MS"></font></i> </div></div></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: tahoma, new york, times, serif; font-size: 14pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <div style="margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" class="hr" contentEditable="false" readonly="true"></div> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Bret Bellamy <bbellamy@mindspring.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Dianne Dawson <rcdianne@yahoo.com>; Apologetics Group <apologetics@gathman.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:
bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, January 31, 2012 7:08 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Apologetics] New Bible Versions REMOVE ‘Father’ and ‘Son Of God’ Because It Offends Muslims<br> </font> </div> <br><div id="yiv1942024935"><style>#yiv1942024935 body{font-size:10pt;font-family:arial, sans-serif;background-color:#ffffff;color:black;}#yiv1942024935 p{margin:0px;}</style><div><font color="#000000"><font size="2"><font face="arial,sans-serif">'Scuse my rather colorful reaction, but.....Hell to the no! It is one thing to respect other religions, but it is quite another thing to kow-tow and bow down to them the way Obama did to the so-called "king" of Fraudi Arabia!<br></font></font></font><blockquote style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 0px; border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 255); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid;">-----Original Message-----
<br>From: Dianne Dawson
<br>Sent: Jan 30, 2012 6:52 PM
<br>To: Apologetics Group
<br>Subject: [Apologetics] New Bible Versions REMOVE ‘Father’ and ‘Son Of God’ Because It Offends Muslims
<br><br><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: tahoma, new york, times, serif; font-size: 14pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div><span>Source: <a href="http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=8259" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=8259</a></span></div><div><h1 class="yiv1942024935title">New Bible Versions REMOVE ‘Father’ and ‘Son Of God’ Because It Offends Muslims</h1><div class="yiv1942024935post-content yiv1942024935clear-block"><div><b>Modern bible continue to blaspheme God’s word</b></div><div>“And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book.” <a href="http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=rev&c=22" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><font color="#0066cc">Revelation 22:19</font></a></div><div> </div><div>A
controversy is brewing over three reputable Christian organizations, which are based in North America, whose efforts have ousted the words “Father” and “Son” from new Bibles. Wycliffe Bible Translators, Summer Institute of Linguistics (SIL) and Frontiers are under fire <span style="text-decoration: underline;">for “producing Bibles that remove “Father,” “Son” and “Son of God” because these terms are offensive to Muslims.”</span></div><div><a href="http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?attachment_id=8260" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a></div><div>Concerned Christian missionaries, Bible translators, pastors, and national church leaders have come together with a public petition to stop these organizations. They claim a public petition is their last recourse because meetings
with these organizations’ leaders, staff resignations over this issue and criticism and appeals from native national Christians concerned about the translations “<a href="http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/SIG=14jj2u298/EXP=1329019891/**http%3A//biblicalmissiology.org/2012/01/16/fact-check-biblical-missiologys-response-to-wycliffes-comments-on-lost-in-translation/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><font color="#0066cc">have failed to persuade</font></a> these agencies to retain “Father” and “Son” in the text of all their translations.”</div><div> </div><div>Biblical Missiology, a ministry of Boulder, Colorado-based Horizon International, is sponsoring the petition. The main issues of this controversy surround new Arabic and Turkish translations. Here are three examples native speakers give:</div><div>First, Wycliffe and SIL have produced <i>Stories of the Prophets</i>, an Arabic Bible that uses an Arabic equivalent of “Lord” instead of
“Father” and
“Messiah” instead of “Son.”</div><blockquote><div>Second, Frontiers and SIL have produced Meaning of the Gospel of Christ , an Arabic translation which removes “Father” in reference to God and replaces it with “Allah,” and removes or redefines “Son.”</div></blockquote><div>For example, the verse which Christians use to justify going all over the world to make disciples, thus fulfilling the Great Commission (Matthew 28:19) reads, “Cleanse them by water in the <a href="http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/SIG=134tejbu9/EXP=1329019891/**http%3A//www.change.org/petitions/lost-in-translation-keep-father-son-in-the-bible" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><font color="#0066cc">name</font></a> of Allah, his Messiah and his Holy Spirit” instead of “baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.” Rev. Bassam Madany, an Arab American who runs Middle East Resources, terms these organization’s efforts as “a western
imperialistic
attempt that’s inspired by cultural anthropology, and not by biblical theology.”</div><div> </div><div><b>RELATED STORY: </b><a href="http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/pages/KJV/400-years-of-the-king-james-bible.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><font color="#0066cc">The 400th Anniversary Of The King James 1611 Bible </font></a></div><div> </div><div>Third, Frontiers and SIL have produced a new Turkish translation of the Gospel of Matthew that uses Turkish equivalents of “guardian” for “Father” and “representative” or “proxy” for “Son.” To Turkish church leader Rev. Fikret Böcek, “This translation is ‘an all-American idea’ with absolutely no respect for the ‘sacredness’ of Scripture, or even of the growing Turkish church.”</div><div> </div><div>SIL has issued a public response stating “all personnel subscribe to a statement of faith which affirms the <a
href="http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/SIG=12crscomq/EXP=1329019891/**http%3A//www.sil.org/translation/divine_familial_terms.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><font color="#0066cc">Trinity, Christ’s deity</font></a>, and the inspiration of Scripture.” However, in the same statement, which is similar to Wycliffe’s, it claims “word-for-word translation of these titles would communicate an incorrect meaning (i.e. that God had physical, sexual relationships with Mary) [sic],” thus justifying substituting “Father” and “Son” in new translations. Calls and emails to Wycliffe and SIL to clarify their positions were not returned. Frontiers responded to calls with articles that critics have already dismissed as skirting omissions of “Father” and “Son” in new Bible translations. <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/father-son-ousted-trinity-bible-translations-003300519.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><font color="#0066cc">source – Yahoo
News</font></a></div></div></div><div> </div><div><div><div><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="tahoma, 'new york', times, serif"><span style="line-height: 24px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="yiv1942024935Apple-style-span"><i>The smallest drop of the Most Precious Blood of our Saviour and God, Our Lord Christ Jesus, is greater in dignity than the cosmos and every human and angelic soul ever created by Him. (Fr. Z)</i></span></font></div><div><i><font color="#0000bf" size="1" face="Comic Sans MS"></font></i> </div><div><i><font color="#0000bf" size="1" face="Comic Sans MS"></font></i> </div></div></div></div></blockquote></div>
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