[Apologetics] Re: 9-11 Questions

Wed Oct 20 10:07:03 EDT 2004

Jim,

Your self deprecating humor is funny.

I'm sure there are many people who believe in all
kinds of conspiracies. In fact, there was a book
written back in the 1960s or 1970s, None Dare Care It
Conspiracy.

Some conservatives think the Trilaeral Commission is
some kind of giant conspiracy.  Some liberals think
the Council for National Policy (CNP), where I worked
for six years, is some kind of giant conspiracy. And
of course, some folks think the Catholic Church is
secretly running the world.

The're all wrong.

Suppose you wanted to start some conspiracy. Or you
wanted to engineer something like 9-11 for some reason
of another (what could it possibly be?), how could you
do it with all of the details to pull it off without
it being detected by outsiders?

It simmply could not be done.

That's not to say that liberals don't work together
through the Trilateral Commission or conservatives
don't work together through CNP. There is nothing
wrong with bringing people together to work for common
purposes to educate themselves and influence public
policies.

Nevertheless, I am fascinated by some of the
information you've provided. You obviously know a
whole lot more about these matters than I do. 

I think some of us would like to get together with you
sometime to hear a detailed presentation about 9-11
and other matters. As I said before, I think there is
"more to this than meets the eye."

I believe you've definitely reached the wrong
conclusions. There are other conclusions that can be
drawn from some of the facts you've mentioned,
assuming they are somewhat accurate. Still, I'd like
to explore them with you sometime.

Art

--- Jim Murphy <jmurf80 at msn.com> wrote:

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Hi Art,

Hold on, the nurse just came into my room to give me
my medication.  I'm better now.

I do not believe that we are in the middle of a
conspiracy.  I believe we are near the end of one.  
It has been in plain view for 75 years.  Our society
is crumbling right before our eyes.  I believe that
none of the rotten stuff we have all been complaining
about has been an accident.  It is a carefully
planned, out-in-the-open, systematic approach to
nothing less than the destruction of this county.  I
believe we are headed in the direction of a form of
feudalism.  I believe that over the next few years,
our government will terrorize us into submission. 
Welcome to the hi-tech police state.

I certainly do understand how Catholics and
Protestants can support Mr Bush.  I don't think it
matters much which Skull & Boner wins this time.  The
next few years such be fasinating.

I have included a partial list of quotes that you
might find interesting.  What were these folks talking
about?  I have over 100 quotes like the ones that
follow.  Are these people joking around?  Please
carefully read each and every quote and ask yourself
if this is some hidden conspiracy?  I must go now 
because I hear the voices.

Murf

"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops
entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the
1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is
especially true if they were told that there were an
outside threat from beyond [i.e., an
"extraterrestrial" invasion], whether real or
*promulgated* [emphasis mine], that threatened our
very existence. It is then that all peoples of the
world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The
one thing every man fears is the unknown. When
presented with this *scenario*, individual rights will
be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their
well-being granted to them by the World Government."
Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians,
France, 1991. 

"Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's
views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest
men in the United States, in the Field of commerce and
manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that
there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so
watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive,
that they better not speak above their breath when
they speak in condemnation of it." Woodrow Wilson, The
New Freedom (1913). 

"The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know,
that a financial element in the larger centers has
owned the Government ever since the days of Andrew
Jackson." A letter written by FDR to Colonel House,
November 21st, l933 .

 "The real rulers in Washington are invisible, and
exercise power from behind the scenes." Supreme Court
Justice Felix Frankfurter, 1952.

"Fifty men have run America, and that's a high
figure." Joseph Kennedy, father of JFK, in the July
26th, l936 issue of The New York Times. 

"The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to
create a one-world government combining
supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all
under their control.... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I
do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international
in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly
evil in intent." Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976,
killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down
by the Soviets 

"We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York
Times, Time Magazine and other great publications
whose directors have attended our meetings and
respected their promises of discretion for almost
forty years. It would have been impossible for us to
develop our plan for the world if we had been subject
to the bright lights of publicity during those years.
But, the work is now much more sophisticated and
prepared to march towards a world government. The
supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and
world bankers is surely preferable to the national
autodetermination practiced in past centuries." David
Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, in
an address to a meeting of The Trilateral Commission,
in June, 1991. 

"In March, 1915, the J.P. Morgan interests, the steel,
shipbuilding, and powder interest, and their
subsidiary organizations, got together 12 men high up
in the newspaper world and employed them to select the
most influential newspapers in the United States and
sufficient number of them to control generally the
policy of the daily press....They found it was only
necessary to purchase the control of 25 of the
greatest papers. 
      "An agreement was reached; the policy of the
papers was bought, to be paid for by the month; an
editor was furnished for each paper to properly
supervise and edit information regarding the questions
of preparedness, militarism, financial policies, and
other things of national and international nature
considered vital to the interests of the purchasers."
U.S. Congressman Oscar Callaway, 1917.

"In the next century, nations as we know it will be
obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global
authority. National sovereignty wasn't such a great
idea after all." Strobe Talbot, President Clinton's
Deputy Secretary of State, as quoted in Time, July
20th, l992. 

"We shall have world government whether or not you
like it, by conquest or consent." Statement by Council
on Foreign Relations (CFR) member James Warburg to The
Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 17th,
1950 

 "The governments of the present day have to deal not
merely with other governments, with emperors, kings
and ministers, but also with the secret societies
which have everywhere their unscrupulous agents, and
can at the last moment upset all the governments'
plans. " British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli,
1876. 

"We are not going to achieve a new world order without
paying for it in blood as well as in words and money."
Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., in Foreign Affairs
(July/August 1995).

"Today the path of total dictatorship in the United
States can be laid by strictly legal means, unseen and
unheard by the Congress, the President, or the people.
Outwardly we have a Constitutional government. We have
operating within our government and political system,
another body representing another form of government -
a bureaucratic elite. Senator William Jenner, 1954 

"The case for government by elites is irrefutable"
Senator William Fulbright, Former chairman of the US
Senate Foreign Relations Committee, stated at a 1963
symposium entitled: The Elite and the Electorate - Is
Government by the People Possible? 

"The Trilateral Commission is intended to be the
vehicle for multinational consolidation of the
commercial and banking interests by seizing control of
the political government of the United States. The
Trilateral Commission represents a skillful,
coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate
the four centers of power political, monetary,
intellectual and ecclesiastical. What the Trilateral
Commission intends is to create a worldwide economic
power superior to the political governments of the
nationstates involved. As managers and creators of the
system ,they will rule the future." U.S. Senator Barry
Goldwater in his l964 book: With No Apologies. 

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far
reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world
system of financial control in private hands able to
dominate the political system of each country and the
economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be
controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks
of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements,
arrived at in frequent private meetings and
conferences. The apex of the system was the Bank for
International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a
private bank owned and controlled by the worlds'
central banks which were themselves private
corporations. The growth of financial capitalism made
possible a centralization of world economic control
and use of this power for the direct benefit of
financiers and the indirect injury of all other
economic groups." Tragedy and Hope: A History of The
World in Our Time (Macmillan Company, 1966,) Professor
Carroll Quigley of Georget! own University, highly
esteemed by his former student, William Jefferson
Blythe Clinton.

 "The Council on Foreign Relations is "the
establishment." Not only does it have influence and
power in key decision-making positions at the highest
levels of government to apply pressure from above, but
it also announces and uses individuals and groups to
bring pressure from below, to justify the high level
decisions for converting the U.S. from a sovereign
Constitutional Republic into a servile member state of
a one-world dictatorship." Former Congressman John
Rarick 1971 

 "The New World Order will have to be built from the
bottom up rather than from the top down...but in the
end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece
by piece will accomplish much more than the old
fashioned frontal assault." CFR member Richard
Gardner, writing in the April l974 issue of the CFR's
journal, Foreign Affairs. 

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