[Apologetics] People of Faith to Demonstrate Against Torture at Vice President Cheney's House

[Art Kelly]

Dear Rev. Orr,

Thank you for your thoughtful comments.

I am strongly opposed to torture of prisioners, as it
lowers us to the moral level of barbarians.

As a Vietnam veteran, I very much believe in the
Geneva Convention, not only because it is absolutely
the right thing to do, but because if you don't, it
gives an excellent excuse for prisioners of the U.S.
and our allies to be treated in a like manner.

However, I did not forward the news release on the
demonstration in front of the Vice President's house
to the Group because I agreed with it. Rather, I
forward a LOT of religious articles and commentaries
for informational purposes, some of which are
diametrically opposed to my beliefs.

When I send something along, I'll sometimes attach a
sentence or two. But other times, the item seems self
explanatory.

I also appreciate your previous comments on the canon
of the New Testament and plan to send a substantive
reply as soon as I have time. I've been working about
65 to 70 hours a week, so time has been in very short
supply.

However, my employer gives everyone off Good Friday.
So, if I don't get a chance to write back to you
before then, I may reply sometime in between the
Stations of the Cross in the afternoon and the liturgy
in the evening.

Thanks again. 

When you reply to anything, if you want, please press
the Reply to All button so that everyone in the Group
can receive your comments. 

Respectfully,
Art

--- Dennis Orr <dennisorr2 at cox.net> wrote:

> Hi Art;
> 
> I am always amazed at how the Word Of God is applied
> to situations that are
> antithical to it's intended application!
> 
> Jesus is speaking to His Jewish /Gentile audience at
> large in an open
> setting. He is talking about their relationship to
> Him directly, and to God
> as His Father.
> 
> We are in a secular setting when it comes to torture
> of people who want to
> murder every living human being who does not follow
> Mohammad. The "Rules of
> Engagment" change! Render unto Ceasar that which is
> Ceasar's, etc.
> Our government is not a theocracy, and for that I am
> grateful. The Lion has
> yet to lie down with the Lamb without the Lamb being
> inside the Lion.
> 
> So, people who want to have a reason for living,
> gather in front of Vice
> President Cheney's home in an effort to associate
> him with "The Inquisition"
> technique of interrogation. It is so easy to "hate"
> someone who is not as
> spiritually "enlightened" so as to condemn
> "torture".
> 
> I read about the Iraqi and Afgan Muslims who do not
> abide by "christian"
> rules, but by the Hadith and the Quran. These people
> are under the rule of
> Satan. They are like their Father, they enjoy
> stealing lying and murdering.
> It is in their nature! Just like all of us before we
> are "Born Again". So,
> since they reject transformed by the grace of God, I
> cannot rule out "rigid"
> interrogation. It saves lives!
> 
> Respectfully;
> 
> Dennis Orr
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: apologetics-admin at gathman.org
> [mailto:apologetics-admin at gathman.org]
> On Behalf Of Art Kelly
> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 2:28 PM
> To: Apologetics Group; Jim Murphy; Michele Allen
> Subject: [Apologetics] People of Faith to
> Demonstrate Against Torture at
> Vice President Cheney's House
> 
> People of Faith to Demonstrate Against Torture at
> Vice President Cheney's
> House at
>
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=63880
> 
> Art
> 
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