[Apologetics] Adventist material on xanga.com

[Stephen Korsman]

Hi

Adventism is one of the extreme groups.  But many are not so extreme -
Adventism is becoming more and more polarised in that sense.  The moderates
are quite happy with ecumenical relations with other groups; the extremists
see it as a sign they need to get out of the Babylon they see their
denomination as becoming.  The website mentioned is one of the more
extremist groups.  I didn't find any specific mention of the Trinity, but
some extremists even reject that teaching.  Most extremists tend to remain
Adventist and quite vocally anti-Catholic.  Their leadership tends to lean
towards the more conservative side, without expressing themselves in an
overtly anti-Catholic way.

I'm hoping that the outcome of this Bacchiocchi scandal will be a blow to
the strength of their anti-Catholic agenda, which is bolstered by having an
international travelling scholar do seminars around the world on how he
discovered that the Sabbath was replaced by Sunday as part of a subversion
of true Christian roots while getting a PhD cum laude at the Gregorian
University in Rome, and subsequently having his thesis published as a book
(From Sabbath to Sunday) by them.  (Some groups of extremists tend to claim
he is a Jesuit infiltrator sent by Rome to destroy Adventism from the
inside.)

http://www.theotokos.co.za/blog/post/index/282/Which-chapter-did-Sam-publish

That's my latest blog post on the matter.

God bless,
Stephen

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Art Kelly" <arthurkelly at yahoo.com>
To: "Apologetics Group" <apologetics at gathman.org>; "Jim Murphy"
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Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 4:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Apologetics] Adventist material on xanga.com


> These Adventists are sick, sick, sick.  Well, at least
> the ones in the link you provided. I suppose there are
> some who are not so crazy.
>
> Thanks to Dr. Stephen Korsman in South Africa who
> specializes in Catholic apologetics directed at Seven
> Day Adentists.
>
> Somebody has to do it. May God bless his good work.
>
> Art
>
> --- "Stuart D. Gathman" <stuart at gathman.org> wrote:
>
> > Some branch of Adventism has top of the page ads on
> > xanga.com.  I followed
> > one of the links to this:
> >
> >
> http://www.worldslastchance.com/index.php?p=next_and_last_pope.php
> >
> > My Mom had told me that John Paul II was the next to
> > last true Pope (based
> > on some obscure interpretation of prophecy.  She
> > claimed that John Paul
> > himself had said this - but I was never able to find
> > a quote.
> >
> > Anyway, because of that, I clicked the link.  It is
> > Adventist (Sunday = false
> > sabbath).  The gist is that the Catholic Church is
> > the harlot on the beast
> > in Revelation 17.  The 7 kings are numbered from
> > 1929, when the Vatican
> > was created, and Benedict is the 7th.  The 8th will
> > be a demon pretending
> > to be John Paul II raised from the dead.
> >
> > Most "last pope" theories from a pre-trib
> > eschatology are respectful
> > of Catholics (true Catholic Christians are raptured
> > leaving only
> > the evil ones to be the whore during the
> > tribulation).  This one is
> > rather anti-Catholic and justifies making Catholic
> > Church a "beast"
> > (persecutor) based on a "wilderness" theory, and
> > history of Catholic
> > persecution of Protestants ending 1798, whence
> > begins the "wilderness" phase of
> > the Catholic Church where she gets persecuted in
> > turn.  According to the
> > theory, Benedict will reign a "short time", then the
> > false 8th Pope will make
> > the church a persecuting beast again.
> >
> > Quite involved, but a well contructed site that will
> > give those interested
> > a flavor of anti-catholic adventism.
> >
> > I checked out the "beliefs" section, and their
> > "faith and works" statement
> > (#5) is rather Catholic sounding.  The preponderence
> > of "de fide" statements
> > in their catechism, however, are interpretations of
> > phropecy - which makes it
> > rather shaky theologically.  It even includes a "de
> > fide" explanation (#9) of
> > why the "de fide" adventist prophecy interpretations
> > of 1844 seemed to be
> > wrong!
> >
> > -- 
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