[Apologetics] Just for fun

Tue May 15 00:22:11 EDT 2007

Stephen,

This is funny too. 

Thanks,
Art

--- Stephen Korsman <skorsman at theotokos.co.za> wrote:

> Hi
> 
> There is already a complaint about this sort of
> stuff on the mailing list here -
> http://tinyurl.com/28wfr8
> 
> Some other worthwhile essays can be found at
> http://www.elsewhere.org/pomo.
> 
> God bless,
> Stephen
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Stuart D. Gathman 
>   To: apologetics at gathman.org 
>   Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 10:41 PM
>   Subject: [Apologetics] Just for fun
> 
> 
>   It's been so long since I posted anything
> substantial, so I thought I'd 
>   get some automated help :-)  I took my response to
> Michael Hortons tract, 
>   and ran it through Bonsai Story Generator.
> 
>   http://www.critters.org/bonsai.html
> 
>   Here is the deeply insightful result (at least
> more insightful that some 
>   arguments I've had to listen to...):
> 
>   I have separated the Council of the church
> councils, appealed to forge false
>   premises.  Does Rome teach salvation by works
> while arguing that the Council of
>   Trent appears to be anathema?  The problem is a
> Catholic FAQ - and schism and
>   schism, and return to note that which has already
> been unable to suggest that
>   Rome teaches dikaiooo by works.  Premise: Rome
> teaches dikaiooo by weakening
>   the popular misunderstanding that the separated
> two arguments against his own
>   conception of justification that Scripture is why
> the prophets, and Horton
>   should know better.  On page 22, Horton says that
> the Magisterium or both, in
>   conclusion, are the Horton tract in entirety.
> 
>   IMO, he gives a shared understanding of the
> apostles as impeccable.  The logic
>   of theologians have separated the magisterium up
> to defend.  The arguments
>   against the Magisterium are excellent and, I have
> read the shifted meaning of
>   justification as making righteous, and
> evangelicals simply a shared
>   understanding front - as such is asking why on
> page they fail to be Protestants,
>   that Rome successfully resisted Pelagianism in
> vocabulary that Rome teaches
>   salvation by weakening the two communions for
> truth unlike certain other
>   apologists.  So here seems to match: the church
> requires this against his
>   authority.  This is exactly what Horton recognizes
> as such: whether the two
>   communions for unity, what he is, a Catholic
> position shows.
> 
>   I think, accurate description: The text he is
> asking is formally defined as
>   never contradicting Scripture Magisterium, or
> going beyond the Council of
>   justification as his own misunderstandings of the
> paper is alright to match the
>   Latin Vulgate.  However, when quoting the only
> basis upon which true unity by
>   weakening the Council of faith, and a genuine
> concern for truth unlike certain
>   other apologists, so here seems to forge false
> unity by the magisterium up to
>   claim that does not capitalize also faith as never
> contradicting Scripture
>   Magisterium, or going beyond the different
> definitions of faith, and return to
>   reveal new revelation from God?  This is exactly
> what he is on page 38: When
>   the paper is a Catholic, apologists will make the
> Horton tract in Scripture,
>   Magisterium, or going beyond the greater
> understanding front - as well,
>   however, does not.  So the matter is hardly clear
> as his own conception of
>   tradition after the Magisterium as Horton claims,
> does the Magisterium as an
>   evolving, post-apostolic, revelatory process.
> 
>   Now, it is alright to reveal new truths, but to
> suggest that *in practice* the
>   grace needed to forge false unity by intellectual
> assent alone, meaning 
>   nothing else, is not, because of the Roman
> doctrine of justification as Horton
>   claims.  Does Rome teach salvation by works? 
> Taking into account the separated
>   churches will make the sinner trying to become
> righteous and also faith as
>   intellectual assent, we get: If anyone says that
> Rome, like radical sects,
>   claims ongoing revelation, On page 26, Horton says
> that Rome fell away from
>   some false premises.
> 
>   The Magisterium defined as such is flatly wrong. 
> [Insert example where
>   Magisterium is defined as never contradicting
> Scripture as to his authority.]
>   This is exactly what he is not because the pope is
> arrogant or crafty, but to
>   suggest that the separated churches will make the
> different definitions of
>   justification as his own conception of the church
> requires this position.
>   That position has been stoutly defended by the
> magisterium up to their own
>   authority: as such is formally defined, as such is
> flatly wrong.  [Insert
>   example where Magisterium has become that and the
> rest as support for truth
>   unlike certain other apologists.] So here are the
> two communions for truth
>   unlike certain other apologists, so here seems to
> cooperate in entirety.  IMO,
>   he does, what he is asking is that Protestants are
> the Apostles.  In
>   conclusion, Horton does a good spirit and schism
> and the apostles do not
>   capitalize also faith as such as not to defend. 
> The overall syllogism is
>   Premise: Scripture explicity anathematizes
> salvation by works?
>   While arguing that ...  let him be built, can we
> not establish church-sponsored
>   forums in a completely different definition of
> Trent declared evangelicals?
>   Simply much more progress needs to become
> righteous .  .  .
> 
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