[Apologetics] Hide Baptism Records from Mormons, says Vatican

Stephen Korsman skorsman at theotokos.co.za
Mon May 5 13:01:57 EDT 2008


Hi

I would say that it would be valid.

If a Mormon baptism is invalid in general, in individual cases it may be 
valid if the cause of general Mormon baptism's invalidity is absent.

Just as Baptist baptism is valid, but in individual cases it may be invalid 
if there is a cause for invalidity.

If a bunch of Hindus, for example, got together and adopted the idea that 
Jesus was an incarnation of one of their gods, and put three together in a 
trinity, and called them Father, Son [the one who was the incarnation] and 
Holy Spirit, and baptised using the Catholic formula, their theology would 
never be considered Christian, and their baptism wouldn't be considered 
valid.

So it is with Mormonism.  Their trinity is not the Christian Trinity.

For some individuals that may be different, though.

That's how I see it, anyway.

I just got this from an Adventist:

"This pope will die on 01 OCT 08.  1260 days after his 19 Apr 05 election. 
1260 days is calculated by Jewish month only having 30 days."

4.5 MB of proof was attached.  Satan will apparently make it seem as if John 
Paul II is resurrected after that.

God bless,
Stephen



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stuart D. Gathman" <stuart at bmsi.com>
To: "Stephen Korsman" <skorsman at theotokos.co.za>
Cc: <apologetics at gathman.org>
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Apologetics] Hide Baptism Records from Mormons, says Vatican


> On Mon, 5 May 2008, Stephen Korsman wrote:
>
>> *Yet their baptism is invalid.
>
>> Summary: their "trinity" is not the same.
>
> While technically true, (none of the Trinity in classic Mormon doctrine
> is God in the Christian sense), most Mormons do not understand the
> difference (invincible ignorance).  So is the baptism valid if the
> official church doctrine is clearly non-christian, but the minister
> and parents actually believe in a Christian trinity?  (Their intellect
> just hasn't registered the contradiction.)
>
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