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The form is: "I baptize you in the name of the Father and of the Son and of
the holy Spirit." But we do not deny that true baptism is conferred by the
following words: "May this servant of Christ be baptized in the name of the
Father and of the Son and of the holy Spirit;" or, "This person is baptized
by my hands in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy
Spirit."
-- http://www.evergreen.loyola.edu/~fbauerschmidt/Th249/armenians_intro.html

I think that the words used in this case go further than acceptable
variation.

God bless,
Stephen
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Stephen Korsman
skorsman at theotokos.co.za
www.theotokos.co.za

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Art Kelly" <arthurkelly at yahoo.com>


> Thanks, Stephen. I read about this in Catholic World
> News.
>
> This isn't the first time some priest tried to change
> the wording of Baptism. A few years ago, children had
> to be baptized again at a parish in the U.S. somewhere
> (it might have been in Boston) after it was discovered
> that a priest had been baptizing "In the name of the
> Creator, Redeemer, and Santifier."
>
> Since Jesus designated what to say during Baptisms, I
> don't think there is room for variations.
>
> I'm not sure if the Baptisms using different wording
> were still valid or not, since the priest clearly had
> the intent to adminster the sacrament. To be on the
> safe side, I think I'd recommend that the children be
> re-Baptized conditionally.
>
> Art
>
> --- Stephen Korsman <skorsman at theotokos.co.za> wrote:
>
> > Church rebuked for 'new' baptism
> > Elizabeth Allen
> > November 23, 2004
> >
> > DOUBT has been cast on the validity of hundreds of
> > baptisms at a Brisbane Catholic church.
> >
> > The baptisms were performed at St Mary's Church at
> > South Brisbane during the past few years.
> >
> > Archbishop of Brisbane John Bathersby has accused
> > the church of baptising "invalidly" by not using the
> > traditional liturgy.
> >
> > Instead of baptising in the name of the "Father, Son
> > and Holy Spirit", Fr Peter Kennedy and his assistant
> > Fr Terry Fitzpatrick used the words "Creator,
> > Liberator and Sustainer".
> >
> > Full article:
> >
> http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,11469388%5E3102,00.html
> >
> > --
> > Stephen Korsman
> > skorsman at theotokos.co.za
> > www.theotokos.co.za
> >
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> >
>
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