[Mesh] Getting excited about patchwork

[John Atkeson]

BTW back when I said I have limited access to 'real internet' what I meant
was that most of the day I am on a government Windows machine which is
fanatically locked down - no installing software, and a proxy that blocks
too much, all streaming and even git interactions like clone.  At home we
have a free-range 3 year old which means even completing a thought is a
special moment.

I hope to catch up with your level but will be stuck in network
kindergarten for awhile as I learn more.  Stand by for really basic
questions, if that's OK.




On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 8:26 AM, John Atkeson <jcatkeson at gmail.com> wrote:

> Out of town right now and catching up.
>
> Cinnamon and gnome-shell are Javascript-based?  Jeez.  I wonder if that
> came out of the brief scare when people thought that Windows 8 was going to
> replace .NET with js.  It wasn't true, but it started a stampede of
> developers toward doing the same thing with open source.
>
> On a slightly different topic I've been trying to teach myself basics by
> installing batman on our two *buntu machines on our home network without
> wifi.  Is that even possible?  Batman installs easily, but I'm not sure how
> well it works without wifi.
>
> There's a lot of documentation, maybe even too much, much of it out of
> date or for unrelated problems.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 6:37 PM, Stuart Gathman <stuart at gathman.org>
> wrote:
>
>> I installed the [download a zillion unaudited 3rd party libraries from
>> random websites] internet generation package for patchwork in a Fedora
>> 25 virtual machine to start using it (to get a feel for whether to keep
>> working on packaging).  I am actually getting excited about it.  There
>> are two components, a scuttlebutt server and a client.
>>
>> https://www.scuttlebutt.nz/
>>
>> The ssb (Secure ScuttleButt) protocol is pretty well documented, and the
>> reference implementations are in node.js.  The current full featured
>> reference GUI client is written in node.js on the electron platform.
>> Electron is based on the open-source chromium browser and enables
>> standalone node.js applications.  Like other js platforms (cough, cough,
>> cinnamon, gnome-shell) it is kind of heavy and has to be restarted
>> periodically as memory use keeps growing.  But, it did the job of
>> enabling rapid development of a very usable and nice looking client.
>>
>> I created the identity CustomDesigned, and I'm currently subscribed to
>> #anarchitecture and #scuttlebutt (and #faq).  If nothing else, it cured
>> the temptation to keep wasting time on facebook (which makes things too
>> easy for NSA).  Of course, you have to remember that your public
>> comments are still, well, public - and FBI can read/misread them just
>> like anyone else.  But the private comments will require some actual
>> hacking of client machines as they are end-to-end encrypted.  Censorship
>> of the sort that facebook carries out is much more difficult.
>>
>> But the best feature, of course, is that you don't need a giant central
>> organization.  And people can ask who needs their driveway cleared
>> without talking to servers in California.
>>
>> The getting started page above has a nice list of other dex
>> (decentralized) projects, including cjdns.
>>
>> If you guys get up on cjdns and install linphone (or other sip client
>> supporting ipv6), you can call my laptop at:
>>
>> "Stuart D. Gathman" <sip:stuart@[fc37:2c50:7583:e0
>> 1a:8c69:8f50:8dcf:a076]>
>>
>> Or send text messages.
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
> --
> John
> http://jca3.freeshell.org
>



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John
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