From sodarock at gmail.com Tue Nov 28 19:49:03 2006 From: sodarock at gmail.com (John Villalovos) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:49:03 -0800 Subject: [Pymilter] Is project still active/alive? Message-ID: <5e61b72f0611281649l5283aee8w8778cbe7de99cc1d@mail.gmail.com> Is the Python Milter ( pymilter ) still active or alive? Looking at the mail archives there is no activity after March of 2006 :( Thanks, John From stuart at bmsi.com Tue Nov 28 22:33:08 2006 From: stuart at bmsi.com (Stuart D. Gathman) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:33:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Pymilter] Is project still active/alive? In-Reply-To: <5e61b72f0611281649l5283aee8w8778cbe7de99cc1d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 28 Nov 2006, John Villalovos wrote: > Is the Python Milter ( pymilter ) still active or alive? I still update things, and make releases. Check CVS. I am about to release 0.8.7. The core milter module is very stable. All the changes are about the bms milter application, and dealing with forgery, spam, clueless mail admins, etc. > Looking at the mail archives there is no activity after March of 2006 :( No one ever responded, so I gave up posting things - except I try to remember to mention releases. Should I post about problems I am thinking about? Maybe you might have some ideas? Notice that pyspf is now its own package. I hate these one module packages, but lots of people want pyspf without with milter stuff. -- Stuart D. Gathman Business Management Systems Inc. Phone: 703 591-0911 Fax: 703 591-6154 "Confutatis maledictis, flammis acribus addictis" - background song for a Microsoft sponsored "Where do you want to go from here?" commercial. From sodarock at gmail.com Wed Nov 29 00:59:21 2006 From: sodarock at gmail.com (John Villalovos) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 21:59:21 -0800 Subject: [Pymilter] Is project still active/alive? In-Reply-To: References: <5e61b72f0611281649l5283aee8w8778cbe7de99cc1d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5e61b72f0611282159g7adeb22dhb59dee737c8e4adc@mail.gmail.com> On 11/28/06, Stuart D. Gathman wrote: > On Tue, 28 Nov 2006, John Villalovos wrote: > > Is the Python Milter ( pymilter ) still active or alive? > > I still update things, and make releases. Check CVS. I am about to > release 0.8.7. The core milter module is very stable. All the changes > are about the bms milter application, and dealing with forgery, spam, > clueless mail admins, etc. Okay cool. Thanks for the info. > > Looking at the mail archives there is no activity after March of 2006 :( > > No one ever responded, so I gave up posting things - except I try to remember > to mention releases. Should I post about problems I am thinking about? > Maybe you might have some ideas? Well, since you asked :) I have a few suggestions/questions. 1. The RPM should not be called milter-*.rpm. That seems to generic, IMHO. How about calling it pymilter-*.rpm or python-milter-*.rpm 2. Why does the RPM install executables and stuff in /var/log/milter/ ? That should be a "logfile" directory. Shouldn't a lot of that stuff go in /usr/share/pymilter/, /usr/lib/python-milter/, or /var/lib/pymilter/ or something like that? 3. Maybe change the RPM from Red Hat focus to Fedora focus. Are people still using Red Hat 9 or earlier? Though a package for CentOS or RHEL might be useful. Thanks, John From stuart at bmsi.com Wed Nov 29 09:53:16 2006 From: stuart at bmsi.com (Stuart D. Gathman) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:53:16 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Pymilter] Is project still active/alive? In-Reply-To: <5e61b72f0611282159g7adeb22dhb59dee737c8e4adc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 28 Nov 2006, John Villalovos wrote: > 1. The RPM should not be called milter-*.rpm. That seems to generic, > IMHO. How about calling it pymilter-*.rpm or python-milter-*.rpm That is on TODO. The core milter modules will be split out as pymilter. That will leave 'milter' as the anti-spam application. I might even rename that to bmsmilter. Pyspf has already been split out for 0.8.7. > 2. Why does the RPM install executables and stuff in /var/log/milter/ > ? That should be a "logfile" directory. Shouldn't a lot of that > stuff go in /usr/share/pymilter/, /usr/lib/python-milter/, or > /var/lib/pymilter/ or something like that? That is in TODO. Originally, the bms.py script was a 'config' file. Except now it is a full fledged application. I have already moved other config files to /etc/mail. Next up is moving the application somewhere. I am thinking /usr/lib/milter. There are log files that are also kind of a config. They track auto-whitelisted and auto-blacklisted senders, but can also be manually updated. > 3. Maybe change the RPM from Red Hat focus to Fedora focus. Are > people still using Red Hat 9 or earlier? Though a package for CentOS > or RHEL might be useful. I have to upgrade all our RedHat customer by January to CentOS, and will no longer put rh73 binaries in downloads. The source rpms should compile everywhere (and should be fixed if they don't), and I figured most people would do that. More importantly than distro, the binary RPM locks in a Python version. -- Stuart D. Gathman Business Management Systems Inc. Phone: 703 591-0911 Fax: 703 591-6154 "Confutatis maledictis, flammis acribus addictis" - background song for a Microsoft sponsored "Where do you want to go from here?" commercial. From stuart at bmsi.com Wed Nov 29 22:51:30 2006 From: stuart at bmsi.com (Stuart D. Gathman) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 22:51:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Pymilter] Is project still active/alive? In-Reply-To: <5e61b72f0611282159g7adeb22dhb59dee737c8e4adc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 28 Nov 2006, John Villalovos wrote: > Well, since you asked :) I have a few suggestions/questions. > ... Are you using the Milter module with your own milter script, or using the bms.py script? -- Stuart D. Gathman Business Management Systems Inc. Phone: 703 591-0911 Fax: 703 591-6154 "Confutatis maledictis, flammis acribus addictis" - background song for a Microsoft sponsored "Where do you want to go from here?" commercial.