Fw: [Apologetics] Re: The Situations in the Catholic and Anglican Churches Are NOT Similar!

[Ward Collins]

This is as most any group  {The U.S. bishops } after enough pressure they
finally quit hiding the sin and take steps, how long ago is some time back?
and what has taken so long and why all the cover ups? I believe that the
truth is what is in the heart come out in the person, the person who did the
original sin is very bad, the one who covers it up is worse as they
participate in the sin and enabled it to continue, elders and heads
government are set up to protect, not to allow them to continue in hurting
others, if I have a watch dog that kill chickens while over watching them I
will not move it to a different coup, instead I move it out of their range,
down to watch the gate at the end of the lane it does not take a theologian
to know this, I have to move away from my weakness so I don't wallow in my
sin, this is why God said PUT AWAY, it means to flee get out not move to a
different town and wallow in it, hence if any man hath a ear let him hear
and he will follow,
Mark 7:13-23
13: Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye
have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
[14] And when he had called all the people unto him, he said unto them,
Hearken unto me every one of you, and understand:
[15] There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile
him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the
man.
[16] If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.
[17] And when he was entered into the house from the people, his disciples
asked him concerning the parable.
[18] And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not
perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it
cannot defile him;
[19] Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth
out into the draught, purging all meats?
[20] And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.
[21] For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts,
adulteries, fornications, murders,
[22] Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye,
blasphemy, pride, foolishness:
[23] All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.

Matt 18:6  But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in
me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and
that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

Mark 9:42 And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe
in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and
he were cast into the sea.

Luke17:2 It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck,
and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little
ones.

Rev18:21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast
it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be
thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.
22.  And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters,
shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft
he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall
be heard no more at all in thee;
The key here is if any man hath a ear to hear, for many do not hear even
though they have ears.
NOTE, the first three writer were lead to write  the same verse, God must be
serious about this?
Ward
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Art Kelly" <arthurkelly at yahoo.com>
To: <apologetics at gathman.org>
Sent: 25 February 2005 Friday 11:48 PM
Subject: [Apologetics] Re: The Situations in the Catholic and Anglican
Churches Are NOT Similar!


> Stuart,
>
> You are absolutely WRONG!
>
> The U.S. bishops voted in Dallas sometime back for a
> "one strike and you're out" policy.
>
> In my own view, that may have been too harsh.
>
> The Catholic Church is in the business of forgiveness
> and there may be some particular circumstances where a
> priest is both truly sorry and unquestionably
> rehabilitated. To say that he MUST leave the
> priesthood provides no room for exceptions.
>
> Nevertheless, it IS the policy of the Catholic Church
> in the U.S.
>
> Maybe you mean it is still being debated by people
> like me who want to have a tough policy but one that
> still provides some degree of flexibililty when the
> situation warrants it.
>
> There are some good Catholics who think the bishops
> may have over-reacted a bit and should fine-tune the
> policy to allow for possible rare exceptions to their
> "one strike and you're out" policy.
>
> The situations in the Catholic Church and the
> Anglican/Episcopal Church are NOT in any way similar.
>
> Art
>
> --- "Stuart D. Gathman" <stuart at bmsi.com> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 25 Feb 2005, Bret wrote:
> >
> > > Bret's comments: Stop by 2008 or else, they say!
> > By then thousands will have
> > > been \"ordained!\"  They lie like Amway uplines!
> >
> > It pretty disappointing, alright.  Meanwhile, US
> > Catholics are *still*
> > debating whether child molesters should be restored
> > to active ministry.
> > I think we are all in big trouble.
> >
> > -- 
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