[Apologetics] Re: Re: Historic Church

[Art Kelly]

Jim,

As you may recall, I know Stan Montieth, although I've
not talked with him in some time. 

I may call him to ask who this guest was and how I can
contact that person. I may also suggest to Stan that
such absurd statements should not go unchallenged.

Since it is indisputable that, under King Henry VIII,
the Anglican Church left the Catholic Church, there is
no way that the Anglican Chruch could possibly be the
oldest Christian denomination.

Perhaps what he meant was that the Reformation
restored Christianity to its original form before the
Catholic Church got off track. 

Of course, such a contention is impossible to prove,
but I suppose some Anglicans might claim that the
religion they practice is more in line with original
Christianity than Catholicism.

Is that what the guest said?

On the other hand, I think you previously wrote that
the guest claimed that the Anglican Church was started
by Joseph of Arimathea. To my knowledge, no Christian
historian of any denomination has ever suggested such
a thing. 

What proof, if any, did he submit for such a startling
statement?  And if true, where was the Anglican Church
all of the centuries before King Henry VIII?

Art

--- jmurf80 at bellsouth.net wrote:

> Art,
> 
> It was on Radio Liberty hosted by Dr Stan Montieth. 
> Lately the good doctor has begun to drop the curtain
> on a very anti-Catholic persona.  I do not recall
> the name of the guest, but he was from Great
> Britain.  The guest launched into an attack on the
> Church and unlike in the past Dr Stan wanted more. 
> At on point in the interview the guest openly stated
> the Catholic Church is a false church and that it is
> the woman riding the beast.  Dr Stan loved it and
> begged for more.  The guest informed him that he did
> not want to offend the Catholic listeners any more
> than he already had and Stan agreed.
> 
> The guy claimed, with no proof whatsoever, the
> Anglican Church is the oldest historic Christian
> Church.  I was amazed that Dr Stan did not voice
> even the slightest hint of a protest at this claim
> given that he holds the lowest possible view of the
> church because he does not even think a Christian
> needs a church.  It's just Stan and Jesus.
> 
> Jim
> > 
> > From: Art Kelly <arthurkelly at yahoo.com>
> > Date: 2006/10/26 Thu PM 11:50:19 EDT
> > To: jmurf80 at bellsouth.net,  Apologetics Group
> <apologetics at gathman.org>, 
> >   Father Phillips <frphillips at atonementonline.com>
> > Subject: Re: Historic Church
> > 
> > Jim,
> > 
> > This is absurd on a multi-dimensional level. 
> > 
> > What radio program did you hear this on? Who was
> the
> > speaker? What station or network was it on? What
> could
> > possibly have been their source of information?
> > 
> > Was it their contention that Jesus founded the
> > Anglican Church on Joseph of Arimathea? What
> exactly
> > is their proof? And where was this church for
> 1,500
> > years before King Henry VIII?
> > 
> > I seriously doubt that even the Anglican
> Archbishop of
> > Canterbury would belive this nonsense. 
> > 
> > Were the persons making this claim serious or was
> it
> > just a joke? Maybe a parody of the Trail of Blood
> > absurdity which claims ancient Baptists?
> > 
> > Please provide more information on this.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Art
> > 
> > --- jmurf80 at bellsouth.net wrote:
> > 
> > > Art,
> > > 
> > > Well it's time to convert to the Anglican
> Church. 
> > > Earlier today I heard a radio program while I
> was
> > > working on an appraisal that really had me
> laughing.
> > >  It seems the Anglican Church was founded by
> Joseph
> > > of Arimathea.  
> > > 
> > > SO TAKE THAT YOU WICKED CATHOLIC!  It's a Rock
> you
> > > can stand on!  A Rock that will never fail you!
> > > 
> > > Jim
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
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