[Apologetics] Purgatory is key issue

[Art Kelly]

It's funny, but many pro-Catholic apologists have much
worse opinions of the Jesuits than do anti-Catholic
apologists.

Art

--- Stephen Korsman <skorsman at theotokos.co.za> wrote:

> Hi
> 
> > They could reasonably claim that I am
> mis-representing the Catholic 
> > position (and I have gotten that on occasion -
> those Catholics are tricky, 
> > they pretend to use words in a different way just
> to deceive you!).
> 
> That's something I've had a lot of.  Especially with
> purgatory, and 
> worshipping Mary.  It's because of that that I've
> been accused of being a 
> Jesuit spy, and other laughable things.  Often
> they'll find a website that 
> uses the word "worship" or claims that we atone for
> our sins, and won't 
> acknowledge that the use of the words "worship" and
> "atone" are not used in 
> their way.
> 
> God bless,
> Stephen
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Stuart D. Gathman" <stuart at gathman.org>
> To: <apologetics at gathman.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 4:57 PM
> Subject: [Apologetics] Purgatory is key issue
> 
> 
> >I think the purgatory issue is the key to ending
> the Catholic and 
> >Evangelical straw-man massacre.  Evangelicals will
> repeat the doctrine of 
> >purgatory over and over again in their own words,
> but continue to denounce 
> >the Catholic doctrine - even when presented with
> the same vocabulary! There 
> >really is a suspension of reason.  They could
> reasonably claim that I am 
> >mis-representing the Catholic position (and I have
> gotten that on 
> >occasion - those Catholics are tricky, they pretend
> to use words in a 
> >different way just to deceive you!).  But instead
> there is a cognitive 
> >dissonance with affirming a doctrine when
> attributed to Evangelicals, but 
> >denouncing the same doctrine with same words and
> same scriptures when 
> >attributed to Catholics.  Amazing.  They really
> believe that "all Catholic 
> >doctrines are unbiblical - even the ones I agree
> with".  Pressing on the 
> >contradiction tends to make them prefer heresy (God
> never disciplines true 
> >believers) to admitting that they might agree with
> Catholics on just a few 
> >points.
> >
> > Sugarman just hit me a slow high return just
> asking for a slam dunk:
> > "The bottom line is if no doctrine can be back up
> by scripture then its 
> > not true."  Boy could I have fun with that.  But
> I'll restrain myself. 
> > I'll just lament with the Professor in Narnia:
> "Logic!  What do they teach 
> > in schools these days?"  It may be that
> apologetics is useless without an 
> > introductory logic course first.  It may be better
> to just quote a few 
> > scriptures and leave it alone.
> >
> > -- 
> >        Stuart D. Gathman <stuart at bmsi.com>
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