[Apologetics] Hide Baptism Records from Mormons, says Vatican

[Stephen Korsman]

Hi

Mormons pour water on the forehead and baptise using the following words:

*"Being commissioned by Jesus Christ, I baptize you* *in the name of the
Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit"

*Yet their baptism is invalid.

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20010605_battesimo_mormoni_en.html

http://www.ewtn.com/library/theology/mormbap1.htm and
http://www.ewtn.com/library/theology/mormbap2.htm help explain why.

Summary: their "trinity" is not the same.

God bless,
Stephen

2008/5/5 Art Kelly <arthurkelly at yahoo.com>:

> If Mormons pour water on the forehead and baptize in the name of the
> Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, then their baptisms of the living are valid.
>
> Baptisms of the dead are nonsense and Catholics should not provide any
> records to Mormons--or anyone else.
>
> What makes Mormons a NON-Christian denomination is their belief in an
> enormous multitude of gods, that anyone can become a god, and their
> blasphemous belief that Jesus and Lucifer are brothers.
>
> *Art*
>
> --- On *Sun, 5/4/08, Stephen Korsman <skorsman at theotokos.co.za>* wrote:
>
> From: Stephen Korsman <skorsman at theotokos.co.za>
> Subject: [Apologetics] Hide Baptism Records from Mormons, says Vatican
> To: apologetics at gathman.org
> Date: Sunday, May 4, 2008, 4:44 PM
>
>
> Hide Baptism Records from Mormons, says Vatican<http://www.americanpapist.com/2008/05/hide-baptism-records-from-mormons-says.html>
>  via AmericanPapist: Not Your Average Catholic!<http://www.americanpapist.com/blog.html>by Thomas Peters on 5/4/08
>
> Because aiding kooky practices doesn't help ecumenism:
>
> In an effort to block posthumous rebaptisms by the Church of Jesus Christ
> of Latter-day Saints, Catholic dioceses throughout the world have been
> directed by the Vatican not to give information in parish registers to the
> Mormons' Genealogical Society of Utah.
>
> An April 5 letter from the Vatican Congregation for Clergy, obtained by Catholic
> News Service <http://www.catholicnews.com/index.html> in late April, asks
> episcopal conferences to direct all bishops to keep the Latter-day Saints
> from microfilming and digitizing information contained in those registers.
>
> The order came in light of "grave reservations" expressed in a Jan. 29
> letter from the Vatican Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the
> clergy congregation's letter said.
>
> Father James Massa, executive director of the U.S. bishops' Secretariat of
> Ecumenical and Interreligious Affairs, said the step was taken to prevent
> the Latter-day Saints from using records -- such as baptismal documentation
> -- to posthumously baptize by proxy the ancestors of church members.
>
> Posthumous baptisms by proxy have been a common practice for the
> Latter-day Saints -- commonly known as Mormons -- for more than a century,
> allowing the church's faithful to have their ancestors baptized into their
> faith so they may be united in the afterlife, said Mike Otterson, a
> spokesman in the church's Salt Lake City headquarters
>
> Of note:
>
> The letter is dated 10 days before Pope Benedict XVI's April 15-20 U.S.
> visit, during which he presided over an ecumenical prayer service attended
> by two Mormon leaders. It marked the first time Mormons had participated in
> a papal prayer service.
>
> I don't think one need take their inclusion as any sort of endorsement.
> This was an ecumenical dialogue, not an inter-christian summit. Mormon
> baptism is *invalid, *which renders them non-christian.
>
>
>
>
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