[Apologetics] Stephen Korsman is a devil!!!!!

Thu Jan 19 23:06:37 EST 2006

Stephen,

As far as I know, your words are perfectly fine. 

My point was that, even if they could be improved upon
in some way (and I don't know that they can), it is
absurd for anyone to go ballistic over them.

The guy who engaged in this name-calling is not well.
As a doctor, you may recognize the symptoms. He should
receive treatment from a mental health professional.
And we should pray for him.

As for the guy who approached you in the chapel, that
sounds like a GREAT apologetics opportunity to explain
what Catholics REALLY believe and WHY.

If you didn't have the time to talk to him then,
perhaps you could make arrangements to sit down with
him over a beer (or if he is a fundamentalist, a
Coke)to talk about the faith.

Even if he was not open to dialogue, you could have
given him some materials to read. Maybe Pillar of
Fire, Pillar of Truth at
http://www.catholic.com/library/pillar.asp

Catholic Answers also has good, short articles on
EVERY Protestant objection against the Church. Their
home page is at
http://www.catholic.com/default.asp

Even now, when you see this guy, hand him a copy of
Pillar of Fire, Pillar of Truth. Ask him to read it
and then talk to you about it later.

The easiest persons to convert are those who have
INACCURATE understandings of Catholicism. All you have
to do is prove to them that they are flat wrong about
some salient issue. After that, everything usually
goes very well.

Of course, Adventists are not your typical
anti-Catholic, since Adventists are also
anti-Protestant and anti-Eastern Orthodox. 

I really appreciate the great work you've done with
the Adventists. You are meeting an important need.

Art 

--- Stephen Korsman <skorsman at theotokos.co.za> wrote:

> Hi
> 
> Thanks ... and yes, the name calling is something I
> am more than used to.
> It still gets my blood pressure up, but I try to
> take such opportunities to
> use that energy to get some message out ... and I
> wanted to blog on the
> amount of back stabbing and bickering I've seen
> about each others' heresies
> in ways that amount to hellfire for ridiculous
> things like singing things
> other than psalms, which has made me understand the
> mockery of Christianity
> I've seen from non-Christians.  People feel
> Christians have judged them as
> damned, and all the while the same Christians are
> judging each other as
> damned for petty things.  People complain about the
> hypocrisy in
> Christianity ... it needs to be shown up for what it
> is - not real
> Christianity.
> 
> It reminds me of a rather unpleasant experience I
> had at the hospital I work
> at ... I went to the chapel to pray one lunch time,
> and the chapel was
> empty, except for one guy who came in after a while.
>  He saw I had a rosary,
> and interrupted my praying to tell me that his
> pastor was an ex-Catholic and
> knows that we worship Mary as God and worship bread
> and believe in magical
> powers in this bread and don't believe the Bible,
> and that I should believe
> the Bible and be saved and believe in Jesus instead
> of the Pope.  He knew so
> much more about Catholicism than I did, so he
> thought, that in the end the
> only way to end it was to leave.  His looks each
> time we pass in the
> hospital make me feel judged, and I really dislike
> that.
> 
> In what way would you say the statement could be
> fine tuned?  (No, I'm not
> taking offence ... I'm just curious.)
> 
> Nearly 4am ... I'm off to bed.
> 
> God bless,
> Stephen
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Art Kelly" <arthurkelly at yahoo.com>
> To: "Apologetics Group" <apologetics at gathman.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 3:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [Apologetics] Stephen Korsman is a
> devil!!!!!
> 
> 
> > Stephen,
> >
> > I see nothing wrong with your statement at all.
> Even
> > if the exact words could be fine-tuned a tad, that
> > does NOT make you a devil.
> >
> > For that mater, I don't consider Arians, Jews,
> > Muslims, or other non-Christians to be devils.
> > Mistaken but definitely not devils.
> >
> > Pray for this poor soul who is so worked up that
> he is
> > calling you absolutely ridiculous names. But I
> guess
> > from your long apologetics work with the
> Adventists,
> > you are used to being called names.
> >
> > Oh, by the way, Jesus was also called a devil. So
> you
> > are in good company.
> >
> > Art
> >
> > --- Stephen Korsman <skorsman at theotokos.co.za>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > Apparently I am a devil, along with Judas
> Iscariot,
> > > because I said that "I believe that Jesus is God
> in
> > > the flesh" instead of "I confess that Jesus
> Christ
> > > IS come in the flesh."  The latter is the word
> of
> > > God, the former is obviously the claim a devil
> > > makes.
> > >
> > >
> http://www.sermonaudio.com/new_details3.asp?ID=5026
> > >
> > > I've blogged the whole thing at
> > >
> >
>
http://www.theotokos.co.za/blog/post/index/173/Battlefield-Baptist-Church-and-SermonAudio
> > >
> > > Quite amusing ... none of you would have guessed
> > > that you had a devil on the Apologetics list!
> > >
> > > God bless,
> > > Stephen
> > > --
> > > Stephen Korsman
> > > skorsman at theotokos.co.za
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