[Apologetics] Re: Non-bishop cardinals

Art Kelly arthurkelly at yahoo.com
Sat Oct 20 08:29:52 EDT 2007


Cardinal Dulles, the son of former Secretary of State
John Foster Dulles (for which Washington Dulles
airport is named) is definitely NOT a Bishop. He is a
priest. 

See the article about Cardinal Dulles in the Wipipedia
at 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avery_Cardinal_Dulles

Art

--- Stephen Korsman <skorsman at theotokos.co.za> wrote:

> Hi
> 
> Apparently Avery Cardinal Dulles is not a bishop. 
> When a non-bishop becomes a cardinal, he is now
> normally consecrated as a bishop first, but Pope
> John Paul II agreed to a dispensation.
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avery_Dulles
> 
> On the Catholic Heirarchy website he is not listed
> as being a bishop -
>
http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/bishop/bdulles.html
> - unlike Cardinal Arinze at
>
http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/bishop/barinze.html.
>  He is listed on the page with living bishops, but
> possibly only because he's a cardinal?
> 
> Henri Cardinal de Lubac is another -
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_de_Lubac.  On the
> page of deceased bishops, he's listed as a priest of
> the Society of Jesus, not a bishop of anywhere.
> 
> Can anyone confirm that Cardinal Dulles is not a
> bishop?  I've found numerous articles saying that he
> is not (e.g.
>
http://www.crisismagazine.com/julaug2001/feature1.htm.)
>  http://www.fordham.edu/dulles/bio.shtml, his own
> university, doesn't explicitly state that he never
> became one, but only that he was created cardinal by
> "Pope John Paul II, the first American-born
> theologian who is not a bishop to receive this
> honor" ... and I take that to be sloppy punctuation
> and that Dulles was the American-born theologian.
> 
> God bless,
> Stephen
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Stephen Korsman 
>   To: Apologetics Group 
>   Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 8:49 PM
>   Subject: Non-bishop cardinals
> 
> 
>   Hi
> 
>   How many of the current cardinals are not bishops
> of some sort or other?  (Bishop, archibishop,
> patriarch, etc.)
> 
>   http://ncrcafe.org/node/1378 has a list of the new
> cardinals - two are priests, the rest are bishops,
> including one patriarch..
> 
>   The last lay cardinals were at the time of Pope
> Pius IX.
> 
>   God bless,
>   Stephen
>   --
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